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A company boss has refused to consider former soldiers as potential employees
A company boss has compared British soldiers to paedophiles and drug dealers after refusing a request by a recruitment service to provide jobs for former troops.
Karl Winn, 60, said he would rather 'recruit ex-drug dealers, convicts and child molesters' than employ former servicemen or women.
His comments came after he was contacted...more >> Company boss compares British troops to child molesters in rant at job agency
A company boss has refused to consider former soldiers as potential employees
A company boss has compared British soldiers to paedophiles and drug dealers after refusing a request by a recruitment service to provide jobs for former troops.
Karl Winn, 60, said he would rather 'recruit ex-drug dealers, convicts and child molesters' than employ former servicemen or women.
His comments came after he was contacted by Forces Recruitment Services and asked if he would consider taking on ex-soldiers at his net design company Webeurope.
Mr Winn, of Taunton, Somerset, wrote back: 'Personally, I'd rather recruit ex-drug dealers, convicts and even child molesters rather than consider anybody who has been in the pay of the British Government.'
'Anybody who has been in the pay of such a military force, and by their silence and complicity has condoned such illegal and immoral actions while accepting a monthly bloodstained pay-packet , certainly won't be considered for employment by us.'
'The reality for the families of their victims is that there will never be any justice, and there never will be any closure, for the loss of a son, a husband, a child, or a family member who has fallen victim to British Military personnel who are going beyond 'just doing their job'.
'Please remove us from your email list. Regards, Karl.'
Despite initially blaming a disgruntled ex-worker who he claimed had hacked into his emails, Mr Winn later admitted to The Sun that he had written them - and stood by his comments.
He admitted they may have been 'a bit over the top' but then said: 'I don't regret saying it at all.'
'Even if it costs me money I'll still stand up for what I believe in,' he said.
'If you have a paedophile, at least he goes to court and is seen to be accountable for what he's done. That's why I made a reference.'
Mr Winn's staff were later seen removing corporate signs from outside his office, which employs 16 people.
FRS managing director Graham Brown said he was 'staggered' by Mr Winn's attitude, which he said 'simply beggared belief.'
'I wonder if the Royal Marine detachment based in Taunton would share your belief,' he told Mr Winn in an email.
Winn later released a statement attempting to justify his comments.
'Ex-paedophiles and drug addicts who have been charged and paid the price for their actions deserve a chance to get on with their lives. In my opinion, military personnel who have got away with murder do not.'
'The reality from the north of Ireland, to Afghanistan and Iraq, is that the perpetrators of such atrocities will always be free to get on with their lives, safe in the knowledge that the policy of the British Government is to ensure their protection from prosecution.'
'I will therefore continue with my blanket ban on employing ex-military personnel.
I understand this will affect innocent as well as guilty people.'
5 days ago
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|  | Bob Mckeever
If he employes the likes of peados just what are his preferences??? About an hour ago
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|  | Ally Bell
must admit ,i havn,t seen so many posting on a given subject for a long time.good to see i say . keep posting folks.. About an hour ago
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|  | John Daly
Though i have been a member only 12 months this is the first time ive seen a post get such a quantity of different people getting involved. Whilst i agree with all of them regarding this "Lowlife" i hope we will see them continue them posting on other subjects, the more the merrier........ regards john daly. About an hour ago
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|  | Murray Whyte
Karl Winn - Personal StatementBackgroundKarl Winn, Webeurope’s founder and principle owner, has for many years supported numerous organisations (NGO’s), such organisations include: - * The International Human Rights Network - Supporting others in applying Human Rights Based Approaches to UN Agencies, countries, and organisations. * Film Makers Against War - FAW seeks to educate and raise awareness of UK and international war law * Art and Sacred Places - Encourages the interaction of art and religion by commissioning artists to make work in sacred places. * Relatives for Justice – A northern Ireland based organisation that supports and campaigns on behalf of the families of the 367 men, women, and children, who have been killed by members of the British Military and Police services. The campaign seeks to bring the perpetrators of such killings before the courts.Statement By Karl WinnFor the record, I have employed ex-Military staff. This was not my issue in my private email exchange with the MD of Forces Recruitment Services Ltd. What I objected to was being asked to give preference to employing ex-British Military personnel under their "hire-a-hero" scheme, simply because they have served in our Armed Forces.I admit that at one point in this private exchange I did say I would prefer to offer employment to criminals because they had at least been investigated and brought before the courts to be held accountable for their actions. I regret making those comments if they were to be made public, as i would have made my point in a more tactful way, but it was said in private, and it was made clear that this was my personal view.My policy is, and remains, to give jobs to people based on their merit as individuals, and not simply because of their service in the armed forces.Contrary to popular sentiment serving in the British Military is not in itself “brave” or “heroic”, and it certainly isn’t in support of “democracy”, least of all ours.The reality from the north of Ireland, to Afghanistan and Iraq, is that the British Military have committed crimes against unarmed civilians. The perpetrators of such atrocities however remain unaccountable for their actions, safe in the knowledge that the principle policy of the British Government is to ensure their protection from prosecution.British Military involvement in the north of Ireland has resulted in 367 direct killings by the British State of unarmed, men, women, and children. The victims’ families still campaign for these cases to be thoroughly investigated, and those responsible brought before the courts, in order to achieve justice and closure.The Dublin and Monaghan bombings – the greatest single loss of life during that 30 year conflict in Ireland - the British Government refused last year to hand over documents that were requested by the Irish TD Bertie Ahern on the role of the British Military in the bombing that killed 33 people in Dublin in 1974.All the way through to our disgraceful and dishonest presence in Iraq and Afghanistan (see yesterdays report on the murder of 8 Iraq civilians while in British Military "custody"). The British Military has a legacy of unlawful killings that need thorough investigation.It is simply not good enough to argue that such victims "were Catholic, or Nationalists / Republican" or even "Muslim", and therefore the victims’ families are not worthy of justice and closure. If we truly value democracy and justice we need to ensure we are not selective in its application.The "war-on-terror" is a lie, and anybody who cares to examine the actual facts will know it. If anything it is not the Taliban that is a threat to our democracy and civil rights it is the British State.Sadly, the British Government has used the lie of a “war on terror” to justify their support of US strategic ambitions in the illegal invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. It will give no comfort to the parents who have lost a son or daughter in this conflict when the British Military withdraw from these countries and history exposes this lie for what is it.Readers who wish to respond to the above statement please email me at karl.winn(@)webeurope.co.uk, Alternatively I can be contacted by phone on 07979-234666.RegardsKarl Extract from a Press Statement issued by Relatives for Justice on 13th March 2010"’Webeurope .. have heard at first hand the true extent of the role of the British army, the trauma, hurt and anguish caused - importantly they have acted to heal, support and address in their own way the awful legacy left behind as a direct consequence of British state violence in our country. ’For that we are greatly indebted to them and in particular Karl Winn whose commitment to non-violence means, human rights, social justice, compassion and humanity are an example to us all.’ NB: Remove the brackets on the email address Last edited by Murray Whyte About 2 hours ago
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|  | Hubert Willingham
some people do not know what service personal do. they keep people in uk safe and the person who put out this e-mail may not have serviced in the forces. and as far as i can see did not live through the second world war. he is talking out of his backside. i only hope he never has to need help from the forces. if he did i hope the forces would say sorry P.O. get on with your life . 2 hours ago
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